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  • Has anyone had success with rehabilation of Little League Elbow? Secondly, is there anyone who has re-trained their child to throw left?

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Heidi Jones
Heidi Jones
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Has anyone had success with rehabilation of Little League Elbow? Secondly, is there anyone who has re-trained their child to throw left?

March 09: I have scoured the web and have not found any instances of re-training with the non-dominant hand/arm. We (12U A level) have been doing this as an alternative to sitting out defensively for the whole season (first medical opinion) and have been throwing left for about 10 days. It seems to be coming along well, much faster than anticipated, but I could really use some tips if anyone has any.

June 09: Update and thanks for all the responses. Learning to throw with the non-dominant are was a great idea and my daughter is now functional in the outfield in very little time. It will take until next year before her long toss is fast and accurate but it is a great back up option for the kid who is fully committed to not sitting out the season. She is under the care of a sports med specialist and strengthening shoulders/arms.She has been able to make catches in the outfield on the dive and throw to second base to stop the advancing runner on the tag. Feet placement and turns are the most difficult. This option/exercise actually seems to have increased her focus in all areas as well. Thanks again everyone.

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  • Jose M Perez
    Jose M Perez
    Answered April 12, 2009
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    I'm not an expert trainer but, if she is using the proper technic, start training her to throw distance. The main thing is for her to throw hard, far and accurate. Once you see that she is doing it, then I think, she could become lefty. And Good Luck.

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    1. Train her from the position she plays if you must. But, she's only in 12U, plenty of time for the 'pressure to play'. Let her be the DEFO for the weakest hitter and have a theripist work with her 2-3 times a week with her right arm. Also, there are excercises she can do on her on at home to strengthen her injured arm. Go to an orthpaedic that specializes in sports medicine asap for a 2nd opinion. Throwing with her left is one thing, but can she catch well with her right?
      Elaine M · May 21, 2009
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  • Nikki Cox
    Nikki Cox
    Answered April 14, 2009
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    yes

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  • Aracely Saucillo
    Aracely Saucillo
    Answered April 17, 2009
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    yes

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  • Henry Munevar
    Henry Munevar
    Answered April 19, 2009
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    LONG BEFORE YOU GOT TO THAT POINT WITH LL COACHES THAT KNOW LITTLE AS THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS. IF YOU EVER GO TO A PRO FIELD YOU WILL SEE ONE TEAM IN RIGHT THE OTHER IN LEFT FIELD BY THE FOUL LINES. IT IS CALLED GETTING THE BODY READY TO PLAY. STREACH FOLOWED BY CALISTENICS, THE SPRINTS OR JOG THE TRACK AREA OF THE FIELD. LAST THING THAT A PRO PLAYER DOES IS PICK UP A BASEBALL. HE MUST BREAK A SWEAT. AMTURE BASEBALL IS EXACTLY THE OPOSITE. THROW TILL IT STARTS TO HURT.

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  • Bill Mooney
    Bill Mooney
    Answered April 27, 2009
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    Heidi,

    Have the players shoulder looked at by a physical therapist and/or massage therapist to make sure the shoulder is sound. A lot of elbow issues originate with problems in the shoulder.

    As per throwing with the opposite hand, that takes a bit of work and dedication. Not to mention they better have some natural ability to do so.

    Coach Bill Mooney

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  • Bill Mooney
    Bill Mooney
    Answered May 01, 2009
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    Heidi,

    Great to hear the therapist approach worked for you. My experience tells me that most elbow issues begin with a shoulder issue. Those shoulder issues are mostly from fatigue and tightness.

    Keep me posted.

    Thanks,

    Coach Bill Mooney

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  • Scott Brady
    Scott Brady
    Answered May 14, 2009
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    Heidi,

    Listen to Bill, I've thrown out my elbow and went to a specialist it starts from the
    shoulder, my son throws right and left handed practice, practice, and pratice.
    Good Luck

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  • Coach Moore
    Coach Moore
    Answered May 22, 2009
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    I would suggest for anyone who wants to learn more about LL arm problems to go to the experts. I will attach some info about the first long term study on LL arm problems, the first one of it's kind and you can e-mail this health organization and they are good about answering questions.
    Studies of young pitchers are desperately needed because more and more of them are showing up at doctors offices with damaged shoulders and elbows, said Dr. Carl Nissen, an orthopedic surgeon at the University of Connecticut who is conducting a study of you pitchers at Connecticut Children's Medical Center.

    It's an epidemic," said Nissen, who has performed surgeries on a dozen young pitcher elbows in just the past six months.

    Nissen and other researchers are using imaging technology at Connecticut Chlildren's Medical Center to find out exactly what goes wrong with young pitchers arms. The most common explanation for arm injuries is that young pitchers throw too masny innings and throw too many pitches such as curveballs and sliders that put too much strain on their underdeveloped bodies.

    Though those explanations may turn out to be correct, "the reality is that it is almost all folklore, with few scientific studies to support the conclusions, Nissen said. Already motion analysis of five young pitchers in a pilot study has challenged at least one long held Little League canon-that the curveball puts undue strain on a young child's arm and shouldn't be thrown until at least puberty.

    Nissen said detailed motion on young pitchers showed that, when properly thrown, the "12-6" curveball-one thrown straight overhand with a snapping motion of the wrist-generates less force on the arm tha a fastball, the stock pitch of pitchers of all ages.

    But a least one study has found that pitchers using curveballs and sliders at a young age experience more arm problems.

    That's very clear, "said Genn S. Fleisig, chairman of research at the American Sports Medicine Institute in Birmingham, Ala., a leader in the field of pitching mechanics. Though Fleisig's own motion studies have shown that the curveball exerts about the same force on the arm as a fastball, it demands the use of a different set of muscles than a fastball, and that can generate arm pain, Fleisig said.

    Fleisig, Nissen and other expert do agree that throwing an excessive number of innings in probably the chief cause of arm problems in young players and that extended seasons of six months, nine months or even all-year participation in organized baseball are taking a serious toll on young arms.

    Old-time professional pitchers may have been able to throw a high number of innings later in life because they did not play oranized baseball on a year-round basis, Nissen and Fleisig suggest.

    "The risk of arm pain is statistically correlated to the number of pitches thrown per game, per season, Fleisig said, "although, we did not prove that surgeries and injuries result."

    Nissen said more scientific study is needed to confirm common wisdom-or to debunk it.

    As more information is made available, I will make it available.
    Coach Moore





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  • Elaine M
    Elaine M
    Answered May 23, 2009
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    That's fine and good for baseball, but softball is totally different when it comes to pitching,

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    1. the question was about LL elbow, not softball elbow
      Coach Moore · September 06, 2009
    2. ll means softball or baseball and they r tottaly diffrent
      Kinsley Barga · January 09, 2012
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  • Steve Billups
    Steve Billups
    Answered May 24, 2009
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    Have you looked at the Finch Windmill? This is suppost to be a good exerciser to
    rehab the shoulder and arm. I just bought one for my 10 year old who is a pitcher
    on a fastpitch softball team. I talked to Doug Finch at a Jennie Finch camp and
    this is what it is designed for. I am not an expert, but it might be another option
    for you to look at. Good luck, hope it helps.

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    1. WE ALL MUST REMEMBER THIS IS A YOUNG PERSON.
      THERE IS PLENTY OF TIME FOR RECOVERY. DON'T MAKE THE
      MISTAKE AND INJURE THE OTHER ARM. GO TO THE EXPERTS AND GET PROPER THERAPY.
      Dwight Taylor · May 29, 2009
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  • Jeff Scully
    Jeff Scully
    Answered June 17, 2009
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    Go see an orthopaedist before you start any thing on your own. If there is pain, there is a problem. Often times the pain goes away with time, but the cause may not.

    They will tell you what is causing the pain, and can recommend therapy, or give you other options. I don't think that I would take advice from a message board for myself or my kids that didn't start with getting a medical opinion first.

    Funny thing is, I don't remember, growing up in the 60s and 70s of anyone having anything resembling the arm, shoulder, and knee problems kids do today. We played just as much, if not more, but we didn't focus on one specific position or play only one sport year round.

    Repetitive motion syndrome is a huge problem in younger and younger kids these days.

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  • Eric Bishop
    Eric Bishop
    Answered July 14, 2009
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    Always see a Doctor if there is real concern regarding health. However, I came across a new website www.youthfitnessmag.com. Then answered a couple questions for me regarding injuries. Maybe check them out.

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  • Lee Foote
    Lee Foote
    Answered July 16, 2009
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    I've never taught anyone else, but I did teach myself voer the couse of a few years in my pre and early teens. Repetition, Repetition, Repetition.

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  • Angie Wright
    Angie Wright
    Answered July 16, 2009
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    idk did not read.

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  • Ahkmed Jah
    Ahkmed Jah
    Answered July 18, 2009
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    keep your eyes on the ball at all times an swing when the time is right

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  • Shannon Mc Clellan
    Shannon Mc Clellan
    Answered October 21, 2009
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    well i am a player, and i just know that you have to start with tiny steps and get that muscle memory good before you move on. then keep adding steps and it should produce better...

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  • Rebecca
    Rebecca
    Answered February 17, 2010
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    goodluck i dont have an answer but just goodluck! :)

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  • Rebecca
    Rebecca
    Answered February 18, 2010
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    comon you can do it evrything wil be just right!

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  • Rebecca
    Rebecca
    Answered February 19, 2010
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    just practice practice practice

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  • Andrew #66
    Andrew #66
    Answered February 26, 2010
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    um not really

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  • Crazy stunt lady =0
    Crazy stunt lady =0
    Answered February 27, 2010
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    I HERT MY SELF LAST YEAR IN THE WRIST AND I TRIED TO THOUGH LEFTY BUT IT WAS NOT SUCESSFUL

    sorry i wasnt much help

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  • Breanne
    Breanne
    Answered March 13, 2010
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    You can just get a net and practice throwing in it.In the next week you will noticed you have improved.I play softball and I never thrown left but here is a couple of things that can help you,if it is really hard just keep on practicing.If you practice you will get better.Another thing you can do is just put your wrist up and just snap the ball.It will help you snap the ball better with your left hand.Remember Practice

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  • Kylie
    Kylie
    Answered April 05, 2010
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    yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Casey Fisher Fisher
    Casey Fisher Fisher
    Answered April 12, 2010
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    i have almost broken my elbow all you do is ease into the training

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  • Adrianna Rogers
    Adrianna Rogers
    Answered May 20, 2010
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    huh?

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  • Harry
    Harry
    Answered June 25, 2010
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    well i'm a natural lefty.
    my sister just got her cast off her left wrist and now she's only using her right hand. she used to use her left.

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    1. GO LEFTY!
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  • Answered November 06, 2010
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    i want to play baseball... on the REDS!!!! :) LOL I DUMB

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  • Mackenzie
    Mackenzie
    Answered November 28, 2010
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    yes and im a trainer

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  • Matt ...........................
    Matt ...........................
    Answered December 04, 2010
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    I screwed up my elbo playing FED (Travel Team) and it has never healed. I had to quit FED and go into a rec league because I cant take the pressure on my arm. Oh and you cant teach someone to through left to right or right to left your arms structured different.

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  • Bryn
    Bryn
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    ?

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  • Joseph
    Joseph
    Answered June 22, 2011
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    It would probably take lots of time for that to happen.

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  • Faith
    Faith
    Answered July 02, 2011
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    Yes just give it a few days or weeks let her practice a few times a week if this does not work ask the nearest pitching clinic to help her or give some tips.

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  • SUMMER "Loves Softball" DAUB
    SUMMER "Loves Softball" DAUB
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    u should see a physical therapist!

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  • Makaila
    Makaila
    Answered October 11, 2011
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    yes girl freind all the time i see it happen almost every day

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  • Mackenzie
    Mackenzie
    Answered May 03, 2012
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    rest the hurt elbow and in 2 -4 weeks it should be better and if not take her to the doctor for xrays

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